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Post  granstar on Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:33 am

I am currently building a new 6x6 practice shed on a budget and thinking about using a riser to get the bass frequencies off the floor to assist reduce neighbour annoyance.

Should make the kit sound good too, and be useable for gigs if i make it portable.

Found these links that may be helful to anyone wanting to build their own cheapy riser.

http://home.mchsi.com/~sjmills5/drum-riser-plans.html

Listen to the drummer while you read the plans with this one king
http://jbdrums.com/drumtips.cfm?mpf=frame
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Post  firetomysoul on Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:51 am

*puts on acoustic engineering hat*

If you want to lessen the impact on the neighbors you need to build an entirely differnt design, these quite possible will accentuate low end frequencies, because of the open air cavity beneath. If isolation is the aim,build like this

carpet
particle board
frame filled with batts
particle board
frame filled with sand
particle board

this plus a well lined wall (acoustic batts aka silencer) double layer noiseline plaster board, then acoustic tiles should result in a very sound tight chamber, also perfect for recording in.
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Post  Mark [Admin] on Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:07 pm

Good post granstar, cheer mate.
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Post  granstar on Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:40 am

Thanks for replies. Yes, the plans would be great for gigs to accentuate the kick. Some nice alloy framed ones on fleabay.
I intend to fill the base (water bed style pan)with accoustic foam which will then sit on HD carpeted concrete floor. I understand the "room inside a room" principle. I think what i am doing will just help tone down bass freqs down a bit, and on the cheap. This is for practice purposes and not recording which need a lot more detail to sound control. A very good DVD on that subject is "Secrets of the Pros -Sound recording"
Already have noiseline walls/ceiling, acoustic batts and double glazed doors in concrete block shed. Same mix has worked well in two previous band rooms i had built but they were your good old tin garage. Drums sound great in the room as it is reasonably dead, great for tuning in but have to be readjusted at gigs following as most venues are much more reflective. reality is if you don't have a double skin the souns is only controlled in the room but still goes out down the street and up your neighbours drive. In the perfect world one would end up with a reflective practice room that also stops sound from exiting the building. That all costs big $$$ to achieve IMO better spend $$ on decent gear.
A point that would be hard to tell some young drummers who tend self destruct their practices " knocks on the door" is to play loud only at the gig and only if the music requires it. Tough call tho.
Majority of practice we do as a band is controlled to low - med volumes and at respectable times. In fact you can learn quicker, discuss without yelling, and save the lugs with softer practices. Gigs are different, all eye contact and knowing your stuff stuff cyclops
Never had a complaint about band practicing in 30 years from neigbours, in fact when we moved last out neighbour was sorry to see us go as they enjoyed out weekly thrashouts.(obvious they could hear us, but we were not annoying). Been painting this room this weekend and couldn't help thinking, maybe a profession as a painter would be good, you get plenty of wrist exercise Laughing
Be good to get back into a routine. Rolling Eyes


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Post  firetomysoul on Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:54 am

lol the old practice debate aye?, yeah something im trying to get some of my mates to go along with, practices don't need to be loud. So now if it gets to loud i just walk out,(they dont seem to listen to me for some reason, oh well there hearing loss)
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Post  granstar on Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:08 am

Quite funny, i used to play full noise with no where to go at practice and at gigs. Many years ago i started to use dynamics in my playing and i think i'm a better drummer for it, playing to the song, don't get me wrong i still lay down that backbeat mostly at med volumes (gig/song depending)so if i want to crank up or down, i can.
I found guitarists are culprits for not listening. Often a loud rock song requiring a bit more gravy has them winding up the knobs, but then they forget to turn down for the next softer song on the repotoire.
As a suttle hint i often would drop my volume considerably on purpose, they would take some time to realise there was no drums in the mix as they generally listen to themselves and not the whole band as drummers do. They finally get the hint, better someone else is blamed for being too loud than the drummer Laughing
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