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Post  T on Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:25 am

Hey All,
obviously there are the famous K/Z 13" Hats, but i've also noticed that there is now an A/Z 14" pair...
this has got me thinking about trying this and experimenting with not only hats but seeing a local player who plays a pair of 16" K crashes as hats, and the likes of Thomas Pridgen using even bigger crashes.
its making me want to go into rockshop and see if they'll let me experiment.

what do you guys think?

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Post  Mark [Admin] on Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:24 pm

Haven't played a factory matched set for years now, I buy single hats and mix and match. My favorite is an old 14" K usa hat bottom with a 14" istanbul green label top also play a 13" K top but ditched the bottom in favor of a 13" paiste 505 heavy sounds much better than the factory matched K/Z combo.
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Post  Belltone on Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:30 am

I've got some 13" kz hats on trade me at the moment actually. Here

Or rather they were sold to me as kay zeez. The top hat sounds more like an A to me.

I quite like the sound I get with a K custom dark on top of a Paiste 2002 crunch hat.

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Post  John on Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:06 am

Not mix-matched but I'm using a pair of old 16" Sabian AA Marching Cymbals as hats at the moment. Low-mid pitch, loud as all hell and super sloshy. Dig it.

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Post  T on Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:13 am

how enlightening,
i'm gonna try a Paiste Stambul on top of a '71 Zildjian canadian hat, both being 14"

Looking forward to it Smile
i tried an A Custom EFX 16" under an A Custom 16" Crash, but the EFX was a bit thin and so a bit too not nice trashy
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Post  John on Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:04 am

T wrote:how enlightening,
i'm gonna try a Paiste Stambul on top of a '71 Zildjian canadian hat, both being 14"

Looking forward to it Smile
i tried an A Custom EFX 16" under an A Custom 16" Crash, but the EFX was a bit thin and so a bit too not nice trashy

Eyyy, I've got a super thin Stambul 14" for sale if you're keen.... Wink

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Post  T on Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:45 am

John wrote:
Eyyy, I've got a super thin Stambul 14" for sale if you're keen.... Wink

swt as bro,
but i already have a pair of SUPER THIN Stambuls, they're so thin i'm always afraid that they'll invert eh!
really low in pitch.
tried a pair of 13" Armand Hats in Hamtown Rockshop the other day, apart from the fact that they're $609.00 i did like them alot
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Post  Mark [Admin] on Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:47 am

Just got a 14" paiste sound creation sound edge bottom at which sounds great with anything I pair it with it came with an older 70's 2002 top which is ok but the magic comes out when paired with a hand hammered complex top.
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Post  T on Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:27 am

tried the afore mentioned stambuls on one of my zildjians the other day, was a quite solid sound, and quite low in pitch, really different to using either pair as manufactured.

might use it in a possible jazz gig i have coming up.

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Post  T on Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:33 am

just got a pair of Zildjian 13" K/Z hats,
liking them, probably use them at church for the hillsong stuff, but also for the tight funk stuff i want to start up!
i've always had a problem with 13" hats not having much sustain (when i wash them they seem to stop resonating before i hit them again) but these seem to have just enough sustain to go through for the next couple of hits...
only gripe... THEY'RE REAL LOUD!!!
i already get in trouble for playing too loud!

happy tho, only paid 380 which i'm thinking is about half of retail
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Post  T on Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:38 am

just got a pair of Zildjian 13" K/Z hats,
liking them, probably use them at church for the hillsong stuff, but also for the tight funk stuff i want to start up!
i've always had a problem with 13" hats not having much sustain (when i wash them they seem to stop resonating before i hit them again) but these seem to have just enough sustain to go through for the next couple of hits...
only gripe... THEY'RE REAL LOUD!!!
i already get in trouble for playing too loud!

happy tho, only paid 380 which i'm thinking is about half of retail
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Post  firetomysoul on Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:34 am

bro what church do you go to?
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Post  T on Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:19 am

Surfside in Raglan,
should come check it out!!! it rocks
we in the Raglan area school hall @ 10am on a sunday
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Post  firetomysoul on Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:55 am

ha wee way for me to go mate, in west auckland
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Post  T on Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:48 pm

come on mate...
when i go 2 Aus i live up north and work down south in sydney! takes an hour of driving 80-100kmh
but yeah the drive is long... but SO worth it
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