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Tuning low

Post  Toddy on Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:25 pm

Hi all, I have a MMX masters and am struggling to get to the pitch I want on my toms (low) I usually play with a higher reso than batter (bonham-esk) but I have never been able to get this kit into that region, I consider myself ok at tuning but for some reason I'm strggling with these, any help would be wicked!

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Post  bryan on Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:04 pm

hey,

If you haven't already, you could look at http://home.earthlink.net/~prof.sound/ and download the pdf.

Also, I have found that using two drum keys at opposing sides of the drum head at the same time helps a lot when tuning.

Bah, I guess this is general tuning infomation, but I hope that maybe it might help...
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Re: Tuning low

Post  Charlie on Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:16 pm

Toddy wrote: I usually play with a higher reso than batter (bonham-esk) but I have never been able to get this kit into that region,...
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Hi Toddy...I don't know how you approach tuning but I recommend tuning the reso's first.
I've since found out many drummers work this way...or similar...
Get your toms on the floor arse up (carpet will stop the batters from sympathetic res) pick the note for your first tom...I read that Simon Phillips starts with 'A' for tom 1...then tune the reso's at the intervals you like to hear. Be really careful that you don't pass through the octave you need for that low pitch, I found it's really easy to do particularly if tuning the reso's reasonably high.
From there I'd mount the toms with batters already on and firmed up and tune them to suit.
The reason for this approach is that the reso determines the note you hear far more than the batter. Your strike note is over almost before you hit the next drum in a round the kit fill but the reso continues to ...well...resonate!
Having said that it is imperative that the reso and batter on each drum are harmonic notes of eachother (possibly a 1st and 4th or 1st and 5th but I've never worked that out) but you'll hear when it's right...Then the next tom looking for that expected interval...etc
Give it a whirl..it works for me!
Good luck!

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Re: Tuning low

Post  Toddy on Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:09 am

Bryan - Thanks for that link bro i've seen that one before its very useful. Do you find the two key method controls arbitrary lugs better? I'll give it a shot if it does, theres always one lug i struggle at bringing up with the rest

Charlie- Ahh right I see, yea I'm probably passing through that octave range and far beyond, i usually tune with the resos first but then tune the batter with the reso muted on the carpet and then try and adjust the heads to get the pitch I want and harmonic but as I said I havn't got the best tuning ability and at the moment I;m compensating the higher pitch sustain with dampener gel, thank you heaps for your help Charlie, much appreciated and will definatley be trying that method out.
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Re: Tuning low

Post  Mark [Admin] on Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:45 pm

What heads toddy?
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Re: Tuning low

Post  bryan on Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:01 pm

Toddy wrote:Bryan - Thanks for that link bro i've seen that one before its very useful. Do you find the two key method controls arbitrary lugs better? I'll give it a shot if it does, theres always one lug i struggle at bringing up with the rest

I have found that it keeps each side of the head evenly placed on the shell, helping to maintain an even tension each side.

Hey, it works for me, but other people may have other (or even better) ideas…
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Re: Tuning low

Post  Toddy on Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:22 am

What heads toddy?

Im using remo emperors batter and ambassadors reso's

cheers for all your help guys
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Post  Mark [Admin] on Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:18 pm

you should be able to get that combo pretty low - its a good idea to always crank the heads up and leave them to stretch in before tuning so they can seat on the bearing edge.
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